It makes me sick

Posted on Thursday, November 29th, 2007, 2:32 PM

I was just reading All & Sundry’s latest post where she talks about Michael Moore’s “Sicko”.  I haven’t seen it yet as I don’t think it was a big draw at the drive-in this summer and if it wasn’t playing at the drive-in, I didn’t see it (welcome to having small children!).  I’ve seen his other movies though and they always incite strong opinions, one way or the other.  They’re rarely enjoyable movies, regardless if you agree or disagree with their message.  It’s hard to enjoy something that so often succeeds in stirring you to violence, am I right?

At any rate, the topic of health insurance is what I’m getting at here (couldn’t tell could you?).  We’ve had both, in our nearly ten years of marriage.  When we were first married, and Kile got his job at the university, we chose an HMO plan (we had our choice too, of several HMOs as well as PPOs) that we felt would cover us best.  And boy howdy, did it ever!  My office visits were only $5 each visit, as were prescriptions.  I could go to any hospital in the area I wanted and I chose St. Marys downtown as it is generally viewed as a bit nicer in the maternity department.  When Harry made his entrance and required a c-section and the NICU and everything else, we didn’t even see a BILL.  Not even a hint of a bill.

Shortly after, however, was 2000 and you have to admit, the economy started taking a bit of a slide.  And in that slide, the HMO option for Northern Nevada went.  Southern Nevada still had an HMO, but we were forced into a self-funded PPO.  Better than nothing, for sure.  Office visits were $15, with prescriptions at least that (often more).  Washoe (totally not even called Washoe anymore but anyone who lives around here still calls it that) was our hospital, and while it’s a good place, it’s a little less “nice” in some areas.  Of course, this was when I was trying to get pregnant, going to infertility specialists, getting my hypothyroid treated, pregnant and delivering Jackson, breaking my ankle, Harry needed surgery, I got pregnant AGAIN and then miscarried and then, at last, pregnant again with Liam.  Months from his due date, we switched to an HMO yet again.  They had started offering one again in Northern Nevada, and we had been reluctant to join it for a while since our infertility specialist did not take that particular insurance and we had heard poor things about it.  However, the company had since beefed up their act and it didn’t appear we would need the infertility specialist any longer and having an HMO covered delivery would be nice.

This HMO was not as nice, not nearly as nice,as the first one we had had.  But it made that PPO we had look like Third World Health Care by comparison.  Which, you know, it was.  It was deplorable.  At least now, we had a copay for the hospital and the rest was taken care of for Liam’s delivery.  My office visits are $20 for a primary care physician, $40 for specialists.  However, the good news is that for prenatal care, we only need to pay the copay the first visit and all other visits are free of charge (of course, someone needs to remind my OB’s office of this as they have charged me the last two visits).  Never again do I want to be without an HMO.  And I know there are so many people out there, SO MANY, who would be thrilled with the HMO we have.  Shoot, there are probably many people who would be thrilled with that POS PPO we had.  Because at least it paid SOMETHING.

I know socialized healthcare is a hot-button issue and there are a lot of people who are four-square against it.  But I think there have been a lot of misunderstandings about it.  A lot of people say that if we had socialized healthcare, we would have to wait months upon months for treatment.  That there would be enormous waits at the doctors office.   That our taxes would skyrocket to phenomenal proportions.  I don’t know about the first two things, I’m hardly an expert on the subject, but the third just makes me want to bang my head into a wall.  Of course higher taxes outrage some people.  After all, if they had to pay higher taxes, how could they afford their enormous gas guzzling monster SUVs (or the gas to fuel them)?  How could they purchase HDTV plasma screen televisions?  How could they spend thousands of dollars on themselves in the interest of pure materialism?

This is a pretty selfish society we live in.  We want to spend the money on the things want to spend it on.  Not the betterment of our society and those around us, but on ourselves and the things we can buy to make ourselves feel more important.  It makes me sick, frankly.  And as Linda said over at All & Sundry, I think basic healthcare should be a RIGHT, not a privilege.

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5 Comments

  1. Gravatar Posted by Nicole (6 comments.) 11.29.2007, 2:56 pm

    Hi! I read Linda’s post too. And I’ve seen Sicko.

    I’m Canadian. I have so-called “socialized” medical care (and I really object to the connotations of the word “socialized” - but that’s another issue :)). I pay higher taxes, yes.

    But you know what? We have two new cars, a house we purchased last year (well, a townhouse but same thing), and a large screen LCD tv. Its do-able - it just means saving for what you want. God forbid we should plan ahead.

    And I thank my lucky stars every day for the Canadian medical system and Tommy Douglas. I agree that basic, universal medical care should be a right - but not taken for granted.

  2. Gravatar Posted by Loralee (125 comments.) 11.29.2007, 3:40 pm

    I consider myself a conservative moderate politically. I am a raging leftist liberal when it comes to health care. It drives my Libertarian husband freaking NUTS.

    I just do not think that someone should die or lose their majority of their life because they get sick.

    I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE!

  3. Gravatar Posted by Michelle 11.30.2007, 4:14 am

    Well, my sister Sharon moved to Canada after she married her wonderful husband. Impartially of course, I can say that I have the BEST brother in law. Anyway, she is going through infertility treatments now herself and has nothing good to say about the Canadian health care system. She has had to wait for a very long time for her referrals to specialists to turn into actual appointments and then months upon months just to get results of her latest test and then had to wait even more months for the treatment those results indicated she needed. She and her husband started serious infertility tests and treatment BEFORE I was pregnant and my daughter is now 8 months old. She has said that she hopes she never has something serious happen to her while they live in Canada. Seeing as how she had lived with the American system for close to 30 years before her big move across the border, I trust her judgement when she says that the Canadian “socialized” version sucks. She has other various names for it, but I won’t list them here on this nice blog.

  4. Gravatar Posted by Laura (5 comments.) 11.30.2007, 7:18 am

    Thanks for the post. I’m surprised this topic isn’t hotter with “Mom Blogs” considering how much time and money we spent in doctor’s offices.

    We pay out the nose for our health isurance (PPO) even with my husband’s employer contribution we pay 4 digits a month and still have to pay $40 for my son’s asthma meds. It’s insane and evntually something will have to change.

  5. Gravatar Posted by Shawna (43 comments.) 11.30.2007, 8:44 am

    Canadian here too. I cannot say enough good things about our medical system. It may have its flaws such as long wait times for certain specialists (9 months to see a dermatologist in my city, but that’s more a function of lack of dermatologists than the Canadian medical system itself), yes, and no, it doesn’t cover everything (IVF, for instance, unless both tubes are blocked, in which case it’s covered in my province), but it is still wonderful to have.

    Perhaps compared to an American with very good insurance it’s not as good, but it beats the hell out of being one of those millions of Americans with minimal or no health insurance. If anything, one of the reasons it gets backlogged is that some of us take it for granted and go to the doctor for every little sniffle; and we can do that because it doesn’t cost us anything up front (in taxes yes, but most people don’t even think about how much of our taxes go specifically to medical coverage up here, to be honest). And IVF may not be covered, but all the tests, etc. to evaluate exactly what the problem was were covered, and we were fortunate that it turned out to be something that Clomid could help with. I have never paid anything for a doctor’s visit. Ever. There was a charge of about $140 per night to stay in the hospital when I gave birth (3 nights because of my emergency c-section), but a large chunk of that was paid by the insurance I have through my employer.

    I cannot imagine living somewhere where a bit of bad luck could mean the loss of all my assets and savings. I could never move to the States without assurance of access to really, really good health insurance.

    You know what else I have up here that I think should be available everywhere? The right to an entire year off for maternity leave, at 50% of my pay up to a certain maximum. And that’s for everyone eligible for EI (unfortunately, the self-employed don’t qualify). And they have to guarantee my job will be waiting for me at the end of that year.


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